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Though, since it is Memorial Day weekend, I wonder how many ranchers enjoy getting interrupted by rockets on their property during the holiday weekend (do ranchers get vacation time? 🙂 )Edward

A couple more thoughts on this. We may want to invite Bob (the landowner to the N) over to see the launch, and have a cold beer at the ready in case he’s interested –not that we would drink while…   Read more»

Very good advice. Maybe there is something we can do besides staying off of their land or lease that might favorably endear them to us and maybe we will be welcomed eagerly. You know sugar instead of vinegar?

Some of you may recall the Beyond Earth Enterprises project – an all metal rocket that flew on a Russell O motor a number of years ago. It successfully deployed a 28′ chute (might have been bigger) at apogee and…   Read more»

The land north of the ORV area is most definitely private land and I can’t count the number of times some of us have wandered about on that land. We’ve been VERY fortunate that the owner hasn’t caught us -…   Read more»

There is some land that is listed in public records as owned by U S A, and they are located in Denver. We would have to talk to those people and see if they would give us information about who…   Read more»

Absolutely. It would be good to have an up to date map of where exactly the boundaries are, and who owns the land beyond each (or is leasing it).

I think that map is slightly outdated, and even though it says US Government or State of Colorado it gets leased out to someone, and like Warren said they are protective of it. I can understand why when their livelihood…   Read more»

Once someone gathers all the parcel data, it might be handy to compile it into GPS coordinates, so those walking around will know when they’re near a boundary. I’m assuming most have fences, but I’d bet not all do.-Ken

Warren,I really don’t see where the problem is to the east, and to the west, there’s a single, solitary, tiny patch of land. To the north, there’s quite a bit of private property, and to the south, there’s some, but…   Read more»

There are leases and then there are grazing leases. In the first case, they pay for exclusive use of the land – that doesn’t mean you’re trespassing (though most seem to think so), it just means you’re likely pissing them…   Read more»

I am in the process of making a map from public records of all the parcels surrounding the launch site. As a realtor, ( among many things), if you lease a piece of property, you have property rights, and people…   Read more»

Looking at the map (http://telerover.com/rockets/NCR/NCR_NPawneePropertyOwners.pdf), east is actually relatively clear. To the north is the property people kept hitting last year.Indeed. The property to the North is outside of the Pawnee National Grasslands boundary. I have worked with the owner…   Read more»

Chris, I’ve got a 50 pound bag of lead shot we can dump in your rocket to keep the altitude down.Edward

Looking at the map (http://telerover.com/rockets/NCR/NCR_NPawneePropertyOwners.pdf), east is actually relatively clear. To the north is the property people kept hitting last year.

Given the winds, I’ve cancelled my one sorta-planned flight – a 54mm MD full K and am planning on keeping my only other potential flight under 15K. I suggest you think about it if you’re thinking of going higher. Much…   Read more»

The private property starts about 1 mile to the east (IIRC). It is closer than you think.With regard to having laundry or no laundry on a drogue, I’m guessing I’ve gone with dual deploy about 200 times. 195 of those…   Read more»

You could use a very porous drogue – on my L3 I used a 36″ parachute with a 18″ hole in the center 🙂 Landed near the 3rd windmill.Edward

Mike Konshak had posted a map here once a couple years back.Search the archives.

80 knots is not bad (seriously). I’d forego the drogue chute, just breaking in half… which is how I always do it anyway.We need to stay off the private property this year…I don’t like foregoing the drogue – it leaves…   Read more»