Would anybody like to represent NCR at the Boy Scout Council Jamboree on Saturday september 29th? I'll be there with several of my rockets, all I need is a friend or two to help out 🙂
The day would basically consist of sitting in a tent all day talking about rockets and eating free food. we'd like to have about 5 or 6 rockets there in various sizes, and some motor cases as well. If anyone has a commercial load they'd like to part with we have permission to do some static demonstrations, but they don't want any EX stuff for fear of a cato.
Thanks!
Hmm...
Any chance you could drive me down there nate? I'd be willing to, but I won't have easy access to a car for most of the year (due to parking difficulty and stuff at CU). I might be willing to part with an H268 or something similar for a static test too...
Absolutely. I mean.... no matter where you are on campus, my house is never more than 4 blocks away 😛
When do you move in?
Tuesday 😀
Guys be sure to think this through. What you are planning to do is a cool Idea but at the same time you will have to represent not just yourself but the hobby your local clubs and do it LEGALLY. Which would mean NO motors over 62.5 grams. You would have to possess a LEUP and be over 21 to have anything over that amount in transportation or in use or even in your possesion. Showing up to a function as such basically breaking the law would be no way to be a representative for your hobby or club. Not trying to be harsh just trying to offer input so as the "right" things are done when doing an event such as this. Sometimes one has to weigh all the if and & buts of a situation.....BTW Commercial motors CATO to. Ive seen more of them CATO then Research. But my question is how would they know about EX motors and what goes into them and the misconception that they are more prone to CATO. Sure it can happen and it does. But again Ive seen way more commercial motor CATO the EX stuff. Be sure to give proper facts keep it simple and I would recommend to keep it fairly lower key. I would highly recommend to speak with other members of this club and others that have done events like this or others as they may have advice to offer. This is just my opinion but Im sure that doing what is right as far as representing our organizations, Hobby and clubs is the most important. Also what did you have in mind to fire these motors On? Do you have a test stand thats been proven to use? You may want to rethink the whole static firing of a motor over.. If you have never been in front of one (thinking of spectators) it could be a bit scary. Also you would have to exhibit all of TRA and NAR rules of safe distances. Then you would have to understand that doing so would probably make you at a liability risk if something should go wrong. Again not trying to be a bummer or speak out and tell you bad things but just be sure to open you minds to possibility and what is truly viable. Im just trying to be a voice of suggestion and reason. What do you think?
I know about that - the only way anything over 62.5g would be tested would be if there was a LEUP holding adult there. Otherwise, it would be a G64 or so (I have a few of those lying around). I also have some G77R's. Trust me - I won't be breaking the law just to make a cool demo.
I know about that - the only way anything over 62.5g would be tested would be if there was a LEUP holding adult there. Otherwise, it would be a G64 or so (I have a few of those lying around). I also have some G77R's. Trust me - I won't be breaking the law just to make a cool demo.
Ok,,, Well not to throw stones.. BUT you did happen to say.............
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Hmm...
Any chance you could drive me down there nate? I'd be willing to, but I won't have easy access to a car for most of the year (due to parking difficulty and stuff at CU). I might be willing to part with an H268 or something similar for a static test too..."
If you knew then why this offer/statment?.....Its comments like these that will raise suspicions of illegal activities by a non LEUP holding Minor. I point this out as that making public comment on such can create an issue with not just legal people, Alphabet agencies, Club Officers, TRA and NAR BOD members but even fellow hobbiest. Really Chris im not trying to beat you up over this just wanting to make sure you understand and are aware. People do read it and do see it. Be sure not to give them something to talk about from this forum. There are more people here then you think.
Now then for the later parts of my questions.....
So then I will ask, if firing a G64 or other 62.5 gram motor what are you planning on firing it on to hold the motor in place? How will you insure safety? what will you have for space for safe distances? Do you have firefighting contingency? Who will be liable if something should happen? All these are questions that need to be answered before you do anything of the sort in my recommendations. Getting involved is a great Idea. We want people properly informed of the fun, the safety and the education this hobby brings. Im all for it. But be sure to make a good game plan with all the questions of such answered. We want people to walk away from this with inspiration to want to join the hobby and learn without any issue.
I am unfortunately won’t be able to make that because I have a prior commitment but wish you the best of luck Nate, sorry I can’t help.
As far as the demo thing goes… I would honestly refrain from demonstrating any sort of a motor even if you are playing by the rules. I have done several things like that before and I can tell you right now that everyone would be more impressed with a few videos of some really big stuff. Chris, if you can bring your laptop and a couple of speakers that would suffice. Bring a few bigger projects like Nate mentioned. Anyone will be just as impressed with seeing stuff like that then a demo of a motor, if they aren’t impressed, then they are just looking for some noise and they really don’t care that much about the hobby or getting an idea of what the big stuff really. Besides, how much is even a G motor demo going to teach anyone? There is more potential for loss then gain and demonstrating a motor won’t give anyone a real clue about what larger rockets are about. My two cents.
Art
Motor Demo + Cub Scouts/Boy Scout Camporee = probably not a good thing. Those things are usually packed in tighter than passengers on a discount flight to cancun usually with the added bonus of shall we say "heat sensitive" housing all around That big dry grass field they usually host these events in doesn't help issues either. I agree with Art and Con, bring some big toys for show and tell.
Just my opinion.
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you could also bring video of a static firing or two. If something could go wrong it just might and that would not be a good thing. the other thing to consider is really what is the wow factor on a G64 at its safe distance, it would look more like a smoke fountain on the 4th of July and we do not want them thinking we are "Pyros" or something.
Very true. The reason for that offer was simply if a LEUP holding adult were to come too. The laptop + DVD idea is a really good one though - I have several nice LDRS and NCR DVD's and such that I could show.
As for video of static firings? I don't have too much of that, but if anyone has some that I could borrow, I would definitely show it. I have a couple of vids, mainly of Ed's hybrids, but I'm sure there's a lot more fun ones to be had.
Now, you guys are on the right track... sorry, Chris, no static test stand vids or DVD's here. Have an old Estes or Centuri static test outfit--only good up to C's without mods, but no vids or DVD's, and way too old to mean anything by today's standards. Gotta be some members with them though. Take your Deuce upgrade, dude, that'll show 'em what's possible!
Ive got some Video of some static firing of my blue motors. from J to L powered. Working on an M and N motor as we speak to fire soon. I also believe that Edward has some as well of some other firings including his motors, some of mine, and a few others. Im sure we could come up with video playable on a Laptop.