So you never found yours either...

Do you know what happened to Ed's?

I had to leave just before his flew...

Ed's is history as well... somewhere out on the prairie.

Warren

Man gentalmen this SSS it eating away at our recovery systems!.... Sorry for the loss the best way to find is to do searches going back and forth up and down to find them and dont always look were the wind was going , wind may be different high up. So good lucky hope you find them.

Art, Joe and I spent about an hour looking for rockets this morning. Joe found his and I found my bird just past the gas line to the North-East. No altitude at first, but then left it in the trailer for an hour or so and it started to flash the altitude. I think it was too cold but when it warmed up and had enough juice left to flash.

The streamer did not deploy, but the rocket was undamaged.

Sorry Chris & Warren, we tried, but no luck.

Ed

P.S. My altitude was 6,275.

Well you kicked John's butt with that altitude... however, the rules are the bird had to be returned by close of waiver on the day the bird is launched so you DQ'd... However, you definitely had the maximum returned altitude. Mine is up on the plateau to the south almost certainly. It'll turn up. I may go out looking next weekend.

Warren

Yes, I've been thinking about that all day. I wish I could have gotten to the site before 1:00. If I had launched earlier in the day then perhaps I could have found it before the waiver closed.

Oh well. Another lesson learned...

Well you kicked John's butt with that altitude... n

Indeed he did... that said, as I noted in the forums earlier this year, I wasn't going for shear altitude -- I placed a lot of emphasis on recovery. I remember posting the exact details of my bird in these forums (down to fin span, root chord, rocket length, weight, etc.) and I noted then that it was far from optimized.

Recovery of a 54mm rocket that is 5 feet long from 6K (ish) is very difficult. Something this size? Yikes!

BTW, the reason I core sampled was pretty amazing... I had a bad ematch. It was well protected and not crushed in the accident. We hooked it directly to a battery, and it didn't fire. Oh well, it was indeed a "Single Shot". Wish I had the nosecone back, though....

What was the altitude on Ed's? Also wondering if we head SE to Atlas next month--now that I'm moved and back in the building mode, say I break the 12K waiver on my ssss flight by a couple hundred feet, is that a DQ? I see no specific mention in the rules, albeit obvious poor form.
JS

Historically speaking, flights which exceed the waiver must be reported at the waiver minus 5' so that there is nothing in writing to implicate the flyer or the club in violating an FAA waiver. Therefore, you can't win the SSSS at the Atlas site... you could win the SSS though. Current altitude is 5800-something by John Wilke. His bird core sampled, but the altimeter survived and reported his altitude.

Warren

Warren,

Does that mean there is a flight posted above 12k at this point? The standings aren't showing any numbers for either unless recently updated.
Thanks,
John

There is currently a bug in the SSS and SSSS contest code that causes the current standings not to be displayed. I'm working on getting it fixed. I believe we have had 2 flights - one by Ed Dawson was within spitting distance of 12K and John Wilke's which didn't quite CATO, but also didn't reach even 2000'.

Warren

I was thinking Ed's flight was 11.6, but can't recall--if so, in theory one could just squeeze in between that and the waiver?? Otherwise I won't even build it as I have a couple other projects I'd like to start on now that I got unpacked finally. Also I found a liner I was looking for and would like to fly my two stager on L-L motors as I had planned to last w/e. Someone said something about prior permission before anything above a K? I've never flown from Atlas so don't know the waiver rules out there. I think there is an issue with the pad being too small to set up at enuf of a distance?
Thanks,
John

I'm at 11,784. You have 216 feet to play with.....

When we rolled over to the new website, we lost some stuff... one of the things we had SOMEWHERE on the old site -- in the club charter or FAQ -- was a notice that you could not claim a record nor win a contest on a flight that broke the waiver. We did this because we didn't want to reward an act that could cause us waiver issues down the road. To me, it makes a lot of sense.

There is some precedent here that I can go into sometime if anyone is interested...

Bottom line is that we've had a lot of days of flying at the N. site this year. Not as many as we'd like, but we have had a bunch. It would indeed be "bad form" to break the waiver... at either venue.

J