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Conway Stevens replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
I cant see there being an issue Bruce as long as you use the correct rail. I know many people that use the railbuttons.com buttons without a hitch. Never one time have I ever heard of anyone having to file… Read more»
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Bruce R. Schaefer replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
Glad that knot was there, Ken. Listen, everyone’s opinion has been very helpful. Diversity of opinion is good. If this were easy, then it wouldn’t be a challenge. Thanks. Now, another question. Tim Lehr sent me some nice extreme rail… Read more»
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Ken Plattner replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
I am a climber. Although I haven’t done much since the boy’s were born. I will say this though, a figure 8 has saved my life on several occasions (really BIG wingers) and I will use it on all of… Read more»
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Bruce R. Schaefer replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
That’s a good endorsement, Tim. Actually, if I were a rock climber, I WOULD trust them to hold me up. 🙂
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Tim Thomas replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
Bruce, I may l know little about rockets, yet I try to learn. What I do know is this, I have been a Ironworker for over 40 years. I have used rope, wire, and nylon chockers. I have lifted THOUSANDS… Read more»
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replied to the topic 6 years, 10 months ago
JW,I have never had a knot or loop fail to my knowledge but i have lost three rockets this year so not sure… but its early in the game, bound to sooner or later. With rock climbing, fishing, sailing, you… Read more»
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Conway Stevens replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
Still, everyone should go with what they are comfortable with.I know of no one who had a knot fail; Incidentally, the turle knot, like most any flyfishing knot, is designed specifically to weaken the chain as little as possible.The best… Read more»
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Brad Morse replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
and any knot except robert DeHate’s finger trap will become the weak link in the chain, that much isn’t opinion. All’s I know is that I’m unscathed with knots, and 0 for 1 with stitching. $300 worth of reload later… Read more»
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replied to the topic 6 years, 10 months ago
During medical school I had the opportunity to help out with a few heart transplants and innumerable by-passes–by help I should say apply retractors to keep the field open, and harvest huge strips of vein and get to sew up… Read more»
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Bruce R. Schaefer replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
Okay, okay… so I take the loop and pass the line through it, THEN tie a knot. How’s that? 😀
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replied to the topic 6 years, 10 months ago
Hey I use nothing but sewn loops and have never had one fail, but to each his own. I (should say Donna) uses very strong thread and we use very strong machine stitching . Flat kevlar also has been fine… Read more»
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Bruce R. Schaefer replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
Hey, let’s go knots! I mean, it’s knot like you’re trying to get a point across. I really would prefer that knot happen. 🙂
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Brad Morse replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
Laboratory tested. The loops are stronger than the cords!Loops are sewn with fire-resistant NOMEX®!
Good luck I’m tyin’ knots…
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Bruce R. Schaefer replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
All the loops in GLR’s tubular Kevlar cords use Nomex thread and say the loops are stronger than the cord itself. I thought about using a deployment bad, but as you did, decided against it.From GLR’s site:Laboratory tested. The loops… Read more»
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Conway Stevens replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
John and I both use about the same kind of knot. Ive seen to many of the loops fail and wont use them either. Its kinda like this deployment bag im not gonna use. All sewn with loops, Flat Nylon… Read more»
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Bruce R. Schaefer replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
You have to show me that “turle” knot. Not using a piston, just Kev pad. The sewn loops WERE to be used to hold Quikllinks that attached to the U-bolts, etc. Not anymore though. Thanks! Found this knot site: http://shoreangling4u.tripod.com/knotguide/index.htmlThere… Read more»
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Brad Morse replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
My bad, Bruce! For some reason, I was thinking you were using flat stuff… You will do superb with the tubular Kevlar. It is wonderful stuff.FWIW, I failed an L3 attempt because my sewn loops failed. It was on a… Read more»
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Bruce R. Schaefer replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
Sorry! For the record I’m using GLR’s Tubular KEVLAR® 1/2″, and I think it’s rated at 7k-8k lbs. I trust the loops. But haven’t stressed them past K’s. I don’t trust tubular nylon, had it break–though I believe the Event… Read more»
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Brad Morse replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
For some reason, I thought Bruce was refering to FLAT Kevlar. Tubular stuff is another matter. Tubular = good for L3, flat stuff is wonderful but not for a project of this size. I’ve seen flat stuff break three times…… Read more»
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Conway Stevens replied to the topic "L3 Project Construction Tips" – 6 years, 10 months ago
JW please elaborte.. As far as wont hold. 1/2 inch tubular kevlar should easily hold a 75lb and under project without a hitch according to the ratings of it. In fact its also what I am using. Got mine from… Read more»
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